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🌐 SIBOS on Tokenization: fractionalization, atomic settlement, public blockchains 🌐
October 12, 2022
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Yesterday during a session at the SIBOS banking event, the benefits and opportunities of tokenization were explored. Deutsche Bƶrse Clearstream’s Jens Hachmeister views the advantages in two ways. On the one hand, tokenization enables efficiencies and cost reduction. And it also provides new business opportunities.

The topic of tokenization enabling fractionalization and ā€œdemocratizingā€ access to assets was discussed. ā€œJust because you represented an asset as an ERC 20 token, you didn’t suddenly bring democracy into finance. That’s just good marketing,ā€ said Yuval Rooz of Digital Asset.Ā 

He wasn’t criticizing fractionalization per se. Instead, he emphasized that technology and automating processes bring workflow operational efficiencies. And it is those cost savings that enable fractionalization.

As an aside, many of these fractionalized assets were previously only available to institutions and are now accessible to wealthy accredited investors, not the general public. So rather than democratizing access as financial inclusion, the token sellers are tapping into a highly lucrative investment pool. For example, individual accredited investors in the United States own $82 trillion in assets.Ā 

Goldman Sachs’ Rosie Hampson had a nuanced take. ā€œI think fractionization is as much about mobility as it is the market access.ā€ In other words, rather than assets being stuck in one place, they can be traded or moved faster.Ā 

Intraday trading is a hot topic for banks and one that is enabled by tokenization. She gave the example of the blockchain solution HQLAᵔ that enables banks to trade and settle assets between each other intraday rather than waiting for two days for the underlying securities to move between custodians.

It also appears there may be a divvying up of this tokenization opportunity. Societe Generale FORGE’s David Durouchoux observed that the tokenization of real estate and alternative assets might be an opportunity grasped by fintechs and alternative asset managers. Banks are more interested in tokenized MiFID securities.

Public or private blockchain

It’s no secret that Societe Generale FORGE is a big proponent of public blockchain. It’s the company that helped the European Investment Bank launch a €100m bond on the EthereumĀ blockchain as a security token, a transaction in which Goldman was also involved. SocGen’s Durouchoux pointed to public blockchains enabling global reach, and the costs are pay-per-use in contrast to the major investment involved in permissioned blockchains. For end users, there’s the potential for automated transactions and value-added services.

Clearstream’s Hachmeister views most changes as a push-and-pull process, with the technology as the push for tokenization. ā€œThe pull needs to come from the market. And currently, I think we very much see the pull from retail markets, which we need to transfer into institutional,ā€ said Hachmeister. Of course, retail markets are on public blockchain.

Goldman’s Hampson echoed the sentiment saying, ā€œWe definitely need as an industry to look at public chains as well. We need to be able to transact with our clients when and where they want to.ā€Ā 

Hachmeister wants to see product managers say, ā€œI want to develop the next bond, which is settled in USDC (stablecoin). I want to develop the next certificate, which has a kicker with staking revenues.ā€

However, while he’s keen on DeFi, he also wants to see it in a regulated framework having the same market integrity as traditional markets.

Digital Asset’s Rooz emphasized that the public chain user experience is far superior. ā€œWe would never accept today that for every website you would have to install a different browser and go to a different internet,ā€ said Rooz.Ā 

However, he added, ā€œyou cannot accept a user experience just because it’s a better user experience if it compromises some of your fiduciary duties for finality, for people not reversing your transactions, people being able to reject your transactions.ā€ For example, he noted how Binance, a so-called decentralized chain, was recently halted by Binance following a bridge hack. And Ethereum’s notorious DAO hack caused a fork a few years back.

So the sentiment appears to be yes to public blockchain, but with regulation.

Atomic settlement

One of the key benefits of blockchain tokenization is the ability to have delivery versus payment or atomic settlement. For years this is a topic that has been debated, with theĀ DTCC one of the first to raise the issueĀ that atomic settlement can require more liquid funds to be on hand in the absence of netting.

This was precisely the point raised by Goldman’s Hampson. ā€œAtomic settlement, in principle, can bring about transformational impact, but it’s really about thinking about when and where it can be used,ā€ she said. For example, she believes it could be optimal for new issuances or securities lending in a distressed market situation. But not in every case.

Both Digital Asset’s Rooz and Clearstream’s Hachmeister believe that atomic settlement provides optionality but doesn’t necessarily have to be used everywhere. Hachmeister views it as a feature where you decide what settlement period is desirable and have more options than today.

Tokenization and interoperability

One final point is about tokenization challenges. A poll during the session asked the audience which issue is the most pressing, with interoperability winning by a landslide:

  • Platform interoperability (69%)
  • CBDCs for settlement (17%)
  • Clarify of digital asset benefits (10%)
  • Volume of liquidity (3%)

On the platform interoperability point, relevant initiatives includeĀ Ownera’sĀ FinP2P, aĀ SWIFT trialĀ and theĀ Regulated Liability Network.

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Online bank Revolut has revealed that it gave out sensitive personal and financial information of an undisclosed number of its customers in response to a fake government request.

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Revolut notice explaining customer identity and financial data was shared after an unauthorized government email request.

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This means that even if you close your account, your identity documents don’t disappear.

And while the incident with Revolut happened in the financial sector, it’s by no means the only one that requires customers to hand over sensitive identity information. Discord, a popular chat service, said in an October 9, 2025 security update that government ID photos of approximately 70,000 users may have been exposed after a third-party customer service provider got hacked.

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This Is The Income A Family Needs To Live Comfortably In Every US State

Here’s the short version of what it takes for a family of four to live comfortably in 2026 by state:

In Massachusetts, you’d need nearly $330,000 a year - the highest figure in the entire country. Only three states clear the $300,000 mark: Massachusetts, Hawaii, and California. At the other end of the spectrum, Mississippi is the most affordable at about $188,000. That’s a full $142,000 less than what you’d need in Massachusetts.

So… how much does a family of four need in your state?

This map shows the pre-tax income a household with two working adults and two kids needs to live comfortably in every U.S. state.

The numbers come fromĀ SmartAssetĀ (as of February 2026). They’re based on the familiar 50/30/20 budget: 50% for necessities, 30% for discretionary spending, and 20% for savings or other goals. These aren’t bare-minimum survival numbers—they’re what it takes to live pretty well while still putting money aside.

And asĀ Visual CapitalistĀ notes,Ā Massachusetts sits at the very top of that list.Ā Massachusetts tops the ranking, with a family of four needing $329,555 per year to meet the 50/30/20 benchmark.

Hawaii follows at $313,165, while California ranks third at $302,682.

Rank State Income needed for family of four (2026)

  • 1 - Massachusetts - $329,555
  • 2 - Hawaii - $313,165
  • 3 - California - $302,682
  • 4 - Connecticut - $298,189
  • 5 - New Jersey - $295,110
  • 6 - New York - $291,533
  • 7 - Colorado - $283,213
  • 8 - Washington - $281,798
  • 9 - Oregon - $280,966
  • 10 - Vermont - $280,384
  • 11 - Alaska - $272,064
  • 12 - New Hampshire - $267,904
  • 13 - Rhode Island - $264,659
  • 14 - Minnesota - $263,078
  • 15 - Maryland - $257,837
  • 16 - Maine - $250,931
  • 17 - Montana - $249,434
  • 18 - Pennsylvania - $247,936
  • 19 - Illinois - $244,109
  • 20 - Virginia - $242,944
  • 21 - Nevada - $242,278
  • 22 - Indiana - $241,696
  • 23 - Wisconsin - $238,451
  • 24 - Arizona - $236,870
  • 25 - Utah - $235,789
  • 26 - Delaware - $228,134
  • 27 - Ohio - $226,221
  • 28 - Idaho - $226,054
  • 29 - Florida - $223,392
  • 30 - New Mexico - $223,142
  • 31 - Nebraska - $223,059
  • 32 - Missouri - $217,734
  • 33 - Georgia - $214,573
  • 34 - Michigan - $214,323
  • 35 - South Carolina - $212,909
  • 36 - North Carolina - $212,410
  • 37 - Wyoming - $212,410
  • 38 - Oklahoma - $211,910
  • 39 - North Dakota - $210,496
  • 40 - Kansas - $207,917
  • 41 - Iowa - $204,422
  • 42 - Texas - $203,424
  • 43 - West Virginia - $202,592
  • 44 - South Dakota - $201,760
  • 45 - Alabama - $198,931
  • 46 - Louisiana - $197,933
  • 47 - Tennessee - $197,267
  • 48 - Arkansas - $195,437
  • 49 - Kentucky - $194,854
  • 50 - Mississippi - $187,533

Connecticut, New Jersey, and New York aren't far behind, bringing the number of states with comfortable-income thresholds above $290,000 to six.

Colorado and Vermont Make the Top 10

As expected, many of the highest income thresholds are concentrated in the Northeast and along the West Coast.

However, Colorado has the seventh-highest threshold in the country at $283,213, ranking above Washington and Oregon.

Vermont rounds out the top 10 at $280,384, despite having theĀ second-smallest populationĀ of any U.S. state. Meanwhile, nearby states like New Hampshire, Maine, and Rhode Island all fall outside the top 10.

Just Six States Come in Below $200,000

Despite theĀ wide range in living costsĀ across the country, only six states have a comfortable-income threshold below $200,000 for a family of four.

Mississippi ranks lowest at $187,533, followed by Kentucky.Ā The states of Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Alabama also fall below the $200,000 mark.

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Over the last three years, a small group of companies has emerged as the backbone of the AI revolution. Microsoft provides cloud infrastructure. NVIDIA supplies the chips. Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, and others develop the models. Together, they control much of the compute, data, and software stack powering modern AI.
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Now that AI is moving into the physical world, many are asking a bigger question:
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Will these same companies end up controlling robotics too?
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It's a valid concern.
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The latest generation of robots relies on enormous amounts of compute, simulation, training data, and foundation models. Many robotics startups today are built on infrastructure provided by large technology companies. NVIDIA's Omniverse is becoming a key simulation environment for robot training. Microsoft Azure is powering the training of robotics foundation models. Physical AI startups increasingly depend on hyperscale cloud infrastructure to train and deploy intelligent systems. Recent partnerships across the industry show just how central Big Tech has become to robotics development.
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That movement is decentralized AI.
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Why Decentralized AI Exists
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The idea behind decentralized AI is simple. Instead of a handful of companies owning the models, compute infrastructure, data pipelines, and intelligence networks, these resources are distributed across thousands of participants.
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Think of it as an attempt to build an open marketplace for AI instead of a world where intelligence is rented from a few centralized providers.
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Why This Matters for Robotics
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Robotics has a unique problem. Unlike chatbots, robots operate in the physical world. They need to perceive environments, make decisions, move safely and they need to learn continuously.
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The challenge is that collecting and training on real-world robotic data is incredibly expensive. That's one reason large companies have such an advantage. They can afford the compute, simulation environments, and data infrastructure needed to train robotics models at scale.
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This is where decentralized systems become interesting.
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Instead of one company collecting all the data and training all the models, decentralized networks could allow thousands of contributors to participate in building robotic intelligence.
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Imagine a future where:
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That vision is beginning to emerge.
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Bittensor's Move Toward Physical AI
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While many people associate Bittensor (@bittensor) with language models and AI services, parts of the ecosystem are increasingly exploring embodied intelligence and robotics.
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One example is Kinitro, a subnet focused on incentivizing the training and evaluation of embodied AI systems. The goal is to create competitive environments where developers build robotic intelligence and are rewarded based on performance.
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The broader Bittensor ecosystem has also expanded into compute marketplaces, distributed inference systems, bandwidth infrastructure, and AI coordination layers that could eventually support robotics workloads. Several subnets now focus on decentralized compute, confidential inference, data transfer, and model training, critical components for future robotic systems.
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In other words, the pieces are starting to appear.
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Not a decentralized robot network yet.
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But the infrastructure that could support one.
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Beyond Bittensor: The Rise of Physical AI Networks
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Bittensor isn't alone.
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Across the industry, researchers and builders are experimenting with decentralized approaches to physical AI.
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New research published in 2026 introduced the concept of DAO-enabled decentralized physical AI, or DePAI. The idea combines robotics, decentralized infrastructure, AI models, governance systems, and human oversight into a single framework. Instead of centralized control, robots and physical infrastructure could be coordinated through transparent rules and distributed ownership models.
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At the same time, developers are exploring decentralized operating systems for robots that allow machines to communicate directly with each other and with distributed compute resources. These architectures are designed to make robotic systems more resilient and less dependent on a single cloud provider.
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The goal is not simply decentralization for its own sake.
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The goal is resilience.
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If one server fails, the system continues.
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If one company disappears, the network survives.
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If one participant leaves, innovation continues.
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But Here's the Reality
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Decentralized AI faces the same challenge every decentralized technology faces.
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Big Tech has resources. A lot of resources.
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Training advanced robotics models requires enormous compute budgets, sophisticated simulation environments, access to specialized hardware, and vast amounts of real-world data.
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That's why many robotics startups still partner with major cloud providers and AI companies. It's often the fastest path to deployment.
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And there are legitimate concerns about whether decentralized networks can maintain quality, reliability, and security at the scale required for industrial robotics. Even researchers studying decentralized AI systems have highlighted risks around concentration, incentives, governance, and network security.
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The challenge isn't just decentralizing intelligence.
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It's decentralizing intelligence while maintaining performance.
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That's much harder.
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The Most Likely Outcome
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The future probably won't be fully centralized. And it probably won't be fully decentralized either. Instead, we're likely heading toward a hybrid model.
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Large technology companies will continue providing chips, cloud infrastructure, simulation platforms, and foundational research.
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At the same time, decentralized AI networks will emerge as alternative coordination layers where intelligence, data, and economic value can be shared more openly.
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The companies building robots may use NVIDIA hardware.
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Train on Azure.
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Run foundation models from OpenAI.
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But they may also participate in decentralized data networks, decentralized compute markets, and decentralized intelligence protocols.
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The future of robotics could end up looking less like a monopoly and more like an ecosystem.
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The Bigger Question
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The real question isn't whether decentralized AI can eliminate Big Tech.
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It can't.
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At least not anytime soon.
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The real question is whether decentralized AI can prevent a future where a handful of companies control every robot, every model, every dataset, and every decision made by the machines operating around us.
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As robots become workers, assistants, delivery drivers, factory operators, and even economic agents, that question becomes increasingly important.
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Because the battle for the future of robotics is no longer about hardware.
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It's about who owns the intelligence.
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And that battle is just getting started.
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